WEBVTT 00:08.949 --> 00:10.989 Welcome to this episode of Save Our 00:10.989 --> 00:12.810 Heat . Today we are joined by 00:12.810 --> 00:14.754 Operations Group Commander Colonel 00:14.754 --> 00:16.921 Kavanaugh . Let's get to it . Let's do 00:16.921 --> 00:19.088 it . All right , OK , so we've got our 00:19.088 --> 00:21.199 10 wings . Got 10 questions for you . 00:21.199 --> 00:23.421 We're just gonna go through it and have 00:23.421 --> 00:25.532 some fun , right ? All right , wing . 00:25.532 --> 00:27.643 All right , so our first wing , it is 00:27.643 --> 00:31.430 the coffee date 1900 , uh , Scoville 00:31.430 --> 00:33.763 heat units . All right , we can do this , 00:33.763 --> 00:35.349 right , cheers , cheers . 00:39.860 --> 00:41.804 What's playing in your car on your 00:41.804 --> 00:44.840 daily commute ? As of this morning 00:45.680 --> 00:48.709 Uh , Christopher Cross , um , he's 00:48.709 --> 00:51.599 playing in Columbus , so my wife and I 00:51.599 --> 00:54.799 and two other , uh , good friends are , 00:54.979 --> 00:56.923 are , uh , heading out to see that 00:56.923 --> 00:59.090 concert in June . So I'm , I'm rocking 00:59.090 --> 01:01.312 some yacht rock in the car on the way , 01:01.560 --> 01:03.782 uh , in the morning , getting ready for 01:03.782 --> 01:05.949 summer . OK . Is music your go to , or 01:05.949 --> 01:08.171 do you have a podcast ? A little bit of 01:08.171 --> 01:10.171 both . It depends on the day . OK . 01:10.171 --> 01:09.650 Beyond the Horizon is your podcast , 01:09.750 --> 01:11.972 right ? Absolutely . OK , that's what I 01:11.972 --> 01:14.139 thought . All right , OK , cool . Um , 01:14.139 --> 01:13.980 let's keep going with these wings . 01:14.040 --> 01:16.318 Let's do it . All right , Crema matcha , 01:16.318 --> 01:19.959 5500 . Ready ? Yeah , OK , all right . 01:25.449 --> 01:29.349 Oh , so not too bad . OK , that's 01:29.349 --> 01:32.169 good . All right , I would order that 01:32.589 --> 01:35.949 per your bio . You are an aspiring 01:35.949 --> 01:39.709 outdoorsman . Aspiring aspiring 01:39.709 --> 01:41.931 average , below average , that's cool . 01:42.349 --> 01:44.571 So you're going out into the wilderness 01:44.571 --> 01:46.682 for two weeks . You need to survive . 01:46.682 --> 01:48.905 Who are you picking from ops to go with 01:48.905 --> 01:50.849 you and who are you absolutely not 01:50.849 --> 01:54.620 picking . I think I would 01:54.620 --> 01:58.360 take uh Lloyd or Tucker 01:58.779 --> 02:02.459 for um not only for practical know-how 02:02.459 --> 02:05.459 but comedy relief for sure . I would 02:05.459 --> 02:07.348 not take Eaton because he's a lot 02:07.348 --> 02:09.515 faster than me and should we be chased 02:09.515 --> 02:12.339 by bears or whatever I I'm the first 02:12.339 --> 02:14.899 one down . OK , all right , strategic 02:14.899 --> 02:17.010 thought right there . That's it . All 02:17.010 --> 02:20.929 right , pickled garlic sriracha . This 02:20.929 --> 02:24.250 1 , 1800 , we've more than doubled the 02:24.250 --> 02:26.779 heat . You ready ? Uh yeah . 02:34.050 --> 02:35.939 I got the sriracha . I don't like 02:35.939 --> 02:39.339 sriracha . A little bit of pickle . I 02:39.339 --> 02:41.617 got the pickle . I'm feeling the sweat . 02:41.617 --> 02:42.800 All right , 3 down . 02:45.529 --> 02:47.640 How about your kids describe what you 02:47.640 --> 02:49.862 do . Um , actually my daughter was just 02:49.862 --> 02:52.196 in the office getting her first ID card , 02:52.479 --> 02:54.590 and after she spent a couple of hours 02:54.590 --> 02:56.812 sitting in the in the chair reading her 02:56.812 --> 02:59.035 book and drawing on the whiteboard , it 02:59.035 --> 03:01.368 was , you have the most boring job ever , 03:01.380 --> 03:03.070 um , but no , they're they're 03:03.070 --> 03:05.619 absolutely very proud and uh . 03:07.389 --> 03:09.167 How old are they ? You have two 03:09.167 --> 03:11.500 daughters . I have a son and a daughter , 03:11.500 --> 03:14.699 um , 12 and 10 . Uh , no , they , they , 03:15.149 --> 03:17.427 they , uh , they're very proud of what , 03:17.509 --> 03:20.270 what we all do and what we do , um , so 03:20.509 --> 03:22.620 it was , that's awesome . She's got a 03:22.620 --> 03:24.787 little sarcasm in her , so it's good . 03:24.787 --> 03:26.676 Do , do they know you're a boss ? 03:29.139 --> 03:31.940 Kind of , but not in the sense of what 03:31.940 --> 03:34.273 they would think a boss was . It's more , 03:34.273 --> 03:36.329 you know , we work together and less 03:36.329 --> 03:38.490 boss . That's awesome . All right . 03:40.160 --> 03:43.259 Passa flora , complex blend of passion 03:43.259 --> 03:45.092 fruit and smoked onion , getting 03:45.092 --> 03:47.679 tropical , make you miss Hawaii a 03:47.679 --> 03:48.679 little bit . 03:56.740 --> 03:59.073 A little bit of smoke there . All right . 04:01.009 --> 04:03.231 Oh , there it is . There it is . It's a 04:03.231 --> 04:06.729 late bloomer . Mm , I guess it is . 04:07.639 --> 04:10.440 Right , so let's get real , see how 04:10.440 --> 04:12.384 human you are with the rest of the 04:12.384 --> 04:14.440 airmen . OK . Have you ever received 04:14.440 --> 04:16.662 paperwork ? Oh , absolutely . OK . Tell 04:16.662 --> 04:20.649 us about it . Oh , Yeah , I , I , 04:20.769 --> 04:22.769 I struggled with fitness for a long 04:22.769 --> 04:26.089 time , um , and , uh , no received 04:26.089 --> 04:28.256 paperwork . The clock has no friends , 04:28.256 --> 04:31.489 but , um . You know , I worked with a 04:31.489 --> 04:33.730 team and they were very encouraging and 04:33.730 --> 04:37.450 helpful . It wasn't like A drive down 04:37.720 --> 04:39.720 to the dirt kind of moment . It was 04:39.720 --> 04:41.776 more like we'll help carry you along 04:41.776 --> 04:43.887 moment , um , so I'll always remember 04:43.887 --> 04:46.089 that and appreciate it , um . 04:48.140 --> 04:49.899 And it is tough . Like it's an 04:49.899 --> 04:53.570 objective standard . You just But it's 04:53.570 --> 04:55.709 surmountable like you , you can get 04:55.709 --> 04:58.350 through , you can beat it and you're 04:58.350 --> 05:00.461 really challenging yourself on it and 05:00.461 --> 05:02.628 it's an important part of what we do . 05:02.628 --> 05:04.970 Um , it is a pillar of , of being an 05:04.970 --> 05:07.137 officer , of being a leader , of being 05:07.137 --> 05:10.649 a teammate , um . And and health and 05:10.649 --> 05:13.329 fitness is very , very important . Has 05:13.329 --> 05:15.440 your experience with that like shaped 05:15.440 --> 05:18.209 how you've handled accountability and 05:18.209 --> 05:20.929 whatnot ? Absolutely . I mean you have 05:20.929 --> 05:23.096 standards and you have to uphold those 05:23.096 --> 05:25.151 standards and you're responsible for 05:25.151 --> 05:27.262 those standards and it isn't just for 05:27.262 --> 05:27.209 the individual , but it's for the whole 05:27.209 --> 05:29.209 unit . But at the same time you can 05:29.209 --> 05:31.730 lead with empathy . Um , nobody wakes 05:31.730 --> 05:33.730 up and wants to do a terrible job . 05:33.730 --> 05:35.619 It's important to give people the 05:35.619 --> 05:37.730 opportunity to meet you halfway , you 05:37.730 --> 05:40.019 know , um . Yeah , awesome . 05:44.420 --> 05:46.587 That was a little bit , a little bit , 05:46.587 --> 05:48.820 OK . Chimurri habanero 05:49.390 --> 05:52.700 48,000 . Argentinian 05:52.700 --> 05:56.700 inspired . Herb forward with a fiery 05:56.700 --> 05:59.109 twist . I'm . I hope it's more herb 05:59.739 --> 06:01.820 fiery twist from habanero and ghost 06:01.820 --> 06:05.179 pepper . All right , we got this right . 06:05.260 --> 06:08.359 1234 . You fly combat missions . 06:09.510 --> 06:11.739 Don't be defeated by the way I'm doing 06:11.739 --> 06:12.739 it . 06:16.350 --> 06:18.579 OK . Uh , 06:21.529 --> 06:23.696 I think I got the herb on that one . I 06:23.696 --> 06:25.751 can't taste it . I just swallowed it 06:25.751 --> 06:27.918 and I don't know if that was a mistake 06:27.918 --> 06:27.910 or not . I'm feeling the sweat coming 06:27.910 --> 06:31.609 down . There we go . Right , 06:32.010 --> 06:34.232 let's stay distracted . What's the best 06:34.232 --> 06:36.232 lesson you've learned from a junior 06:36.232 --> 06:38.829 airman or a junior officer ? I think 06:38.829 --> 06:41.709 that truly the best lesson I've ever 06:41.709 --> 06:44.200 learned from . Leading soldiers and 06:44.200 --> 06:46.367 airmen is the importance of a sense of 06:46.367 --> 06:49.299 humor . You always go to those . Those 06:49.299 --> 06:51.299 times when you're frustrated , when 06:51.299 --> 06:53.521 you're upset and somebody cracks a joke 06:53.521 --> 06:57.309 or Like has dark humor or just says 06:57.309 --> 06:59.309 something that brings you up that's 06:59.309 --> 07:01.309 maybe mildly inappropriate but like 07:01.670 --> 07:03.809 really funny and nails it , um . 07:05.579 --> 07:08.940 And that's common in all the services 07:08.940 --> 07:12.029 and units I've ever been that um and 07:12.029 --> 07:14.196 why I would take those two airmen with 07:14.196 --> 07:15.973 me to survive would be like the 07:15.973 --> 07:18.440 importance of keeping it light and fun , 07:19.290 --> 07:21.512 uh , because of the important work that 07:21.512 --> 07:23.623 we do and you have to offset that and 07:23.623 --> 07:25.640 have that balance . I'm getting a 07:25.640 --> 07:27.640 little numb . This is good . Good . 07:27.640 --> 07:29.584 That rip . All right , so maybe we 07:29.584 --> 07:31.807 could start eating the whole wing . All 07:31.807 --> 07:35.239 right . We're on number 7 . All right , 07:35.359 --> 07:39.070 Hawaiian . Hawaiian hotties . Warm , 07:39.179 --> 07:41.640 spicy , welcome . Let's do it . OK . 07:57.750 --> 08:00.028 You good ? Yeah , I felt that one . OK , 08:00.028 --> 08:02.194 me too . Oh , this is , this is good . 08:03.119 --> 08:05.799 OK , we got drinks . We're , we're good . 08:06.250 --> 08:07.639 It's weakness in a cup . 08:11.570 --> 08:15.179 Right . Right , you flew the 08:15.179 --> 08:17.339 C-130s . I did . You got the MQ-9 . 08:18.750 --> 08:21.529 What are your thoughts when people say 08:21.829 --> 08:25.730 RPA pilots aren't real pilots ? OK . 08:27.720 --> 08:30.053 Right , don't let it get to you , right ? 08:30.053 --> 08:32.479 I mean , it's um . I don't understand 08:32.479 --> 08:35.710 the . You know , when you hear that 08:35.719 --> 08:37.830 question or you hear that statement , 08:37.830 --> 08:39.997 it's like um . I don't understand what 08:39.997 --> 08:42.108 you're trying to , what is the , what 08:42.108 --> 08:44.163 is the goal of the question ? What's 08:44.163 --> 08:46.441 the end state of that question ? Is it ? 08:46.441 --> 08:49.349 You know what I mean ? Like So it's not 08:49.349 --> 08:51.770 very uplifting camaraderie , and , and , 08:52.229 --> 08:54.396 and it's almost like I'm asking you to 08:54.396 --> 08:56.618 defend why you're here , but at the end 08:56.618 --> 08:59.669 of the day it's you . You're arguing 08:59.669 --> 09:03.109 about what's cooler or whatever um but 09:03.109 --> 09:04.776 it's it's what happens on the 09:04.776 --> 09:06.831 battlefield it it's what happens for 09:06.831 --> 09:08.776 that combatant commander it's what 09:08.776 --> 09:10.998 happens for that ground force commander 09:11.150 --> 09:14.710 that is what's most important whether 09:14.710 --> 09:17.909 or not . I'm considered a real pilot in 09:17.909 --> 09:19.687 the eyes of somebody else who's 09:19.950 --> 09:22.500 immaterial . I think the sooner that 09:22.510 --> 09:24.890 you get over that , the funner the job 09:24.890 --> 09:28.710 becomes , yeah . I'm feeling 09:28.710 --> 09:31.270 this . That , that one was hot . All 09:31.270 --> 09:33.880 right , I got me right now , yep . No . 09:34.890 --> 09:37.223 You ready for the next one or you wanna , 09:37.223 --> 09:39.057 let's question it . OK , another 09:39.057 --> 09:41.390 question . Just let it burn more , yeah , 09:41.940 --> 09:44.919 yeah . If , if you had to do it again , 09:45.340 --> 09:47.507 OK , would you go back to West Point , 09:47.507 --> 09:49.396 or would you choose the Air Force 09:49.396 --> 09:51.507 Academy , or just ditch the academies 09:51.507 --> 09:53.969 and have like a Typical college 09:53.969 --> 09:56.080 experience . OK , knowing what I know 09:56.080 --> 09:58.890 now , I would absolutely go to the 09:58.890 --> 10:01.549 academy again , uh , West Point . Um , 10:02.010 --> 10:04.177 I mean , Air Force is almost as good , 10:04.177 --> 10:07.080 but . Yeah , I mean , given the choice , 10:07.159 --> 10:10.320 I'd choose West Point , um . And I say 10:10.320 --> 10:12.320 that with love , like the academies 10:12.320 --> 10:15.909 were fantastic , uh . I met some of my 10:15.909 --> 10:18.979 best friends there . I had some of the 10:18.979 --> 10:21.201 most challenging times as a young adult 10:21.201 --> 10:23.257 to get that confidence to be able to 10:23.257 --> 10:26.580 lead soldiers afterwards . And the 10:26.580 --> 10:28.580 opportunity to make mistakes and to 10:28.580 --> 10:30.747 learn from them was a big part of that 10:30.747 --> 10:34.039 process , uh . It was 4 years in the 10:34.039 --> 10:37.950 practice of humility for sure . I would 10:37.950 --> 10:40.150 absolutely do it again . That isn't to 10:40.150 --> 10:42.317 say like I wouldn't have loved to have 10:42.317 --> 10:44.483 like really cool spring breaks or like 10:44.483 --> 10:46.630 go to other schools and have those 10:46.630 --> 10:49.229 experiences . I think anything that 10:49.229 --> 10:52.030 gets you to grow is important , um , 10:52.669 --> 10:54.780 and for me personally I I needed that 10:54.780 --> 10:56.947 little extra discipline , so it worked 10:56.947 --> 10:59.479 out . Yeah , talk about humility . I'm 10:59.479 --> 11:01.960 feeling it right now . Like cheers to 11:01.960 --> 11:04.127 everybody who does this for fun . This 11:04.127 --> 11:06.182 is cool . This is , yeah , I'm gonna 11:06.182 --> 11:10.179 get a new t-shirt , the bomb evolution . 11:11.559 --> 11:15.429 135,600 Scoville heat 11:15.429 --> 11:17.080 units . All right . 11:20.190 --> 11:23.900 There has to be this much . Yeah , OK , 11:24.479 --> 11:25.979 we can do it . I'm ready . 11:28.559 --> 11:29.670 Gentlemen , first . 11:35.229 --> 11:38.669 So the king's not good either . OK , OK , 11:39.869 --> 11:42.210 I'm , this is a lot of sweat . I'm 11:42.210 --> 11:44.099 feeling good , I'm feeling good . 11:46.489 --> 11:50.049 All right . Thank you Oh , this is from 11:50.049 --> 11:52.789 the makers of Beyond Insanity . OK . 11:53.760 --> 11:55.927 That holds up to it . Oh , it's coming 11:55.927 --> 11:56.927 up my eyeballs . 12:00.219 --> 12:02.052 Tell me it's time you failed and 12:02.052 --> 12:05.960 recovered . Oh man . I'm not 12:05.960 --> 12:08.059 being emotional . I just can't see . 12:10.640 --> 12:12.973 failed and recovered to drink something . 12:12.973 --> 12:15.140 We all need a little help . There's no 12:15.140 --> 12:17.059 way I'm not drinking till then . 12:18.760 --> 12:21.880 Um , I've academically failed , 12:22.210 --> 12:25.070 physically failed , um . Bye . 12:25.880 --> 12:29.359 I've , uh , misplaced equipment . I've 12:29.359 --> 12:32.400 had soldiers lose stuff , um , I've 12:32.400 --> 12:34.559 done the wrong thing on an exercise 12:34.559 --> 12:38.559 like I've had , I've . I've been hooked 12:38.619 --> 12:40.940 5 times in a row for the same flight 12:40.940 --> 12:44.820 for an upgrade like . But it's 12:44.820 --> 12:46.820 the iteration . It's the , it's the 12:46.820 --> 12:49.330 coming back . Like if you fail and stop , 12:49.619 --> 12:51.840 then that's it . You got to just keep 12:51.840 --> 12:54.429 going just like these last 32 wings , 12:54.440 --> 12:57.780 you just got to keep going um oh my 12:57.780 --> 12:59.369 gosh ridiculous . 13:01.349 --> 13:04.289 Um , yeah , so failure and 13:05.169 --> 13:07.280 the failure doesn't matter . It's the 13:07.280 --> 13:10.150 continuing on that does . On that note 13:10.150 --> 13:12.200 then , let's continue on , right . 13:14.140 --> 13:16.196 Let's just , let's just go , right ? 13:16.196 --> 13:18.196 I'm ready . Let's just do it , OK . 13:18.196 --> 13:20.739 This is , um , karma sauce , the funk 13:20.739 --> 13:22.961 and yellow Rochester , New York legends 13:22.961 --> 13:25.559 karma sauce . OK , OK , 13:26.469 --> 13:29.229 scorpion pepper sauce blended with 13:29.229 --> 13:31.500 another pepper . Why , why did they 13:31.500 --> 13:33.789 name the pepper scorpion ? Well , let's 13:33.789 --> 13:35.845 find out . It's gonna stink , yeah . 13:37.669 --> 13:41.179 OK . OK , let's do it . 13:43.000 --> 13:44.000 However 13:47.830 --> 13:49.774 What's your war story ? Yeah , you 13:49.774 --> 13:51.997 gotta eat that one fast . Eat it fast . 13:52.270 --> 13:54.492 All right . I've never sweat through my 13:54.492 --> 13:56.603 eyeball . First time for everything . 13:58.020 --> 14:01.710 OK . What's your war story , meaning . 14:02.719 --> 14:06.239 When , give us a time when everything 14:06.239 --> 14:08.640 that could go wrong did . 14:10.559 --> 14:14.400 Now you recouped . I've I've had a lot 14:14.400 --> 14:16.622 of experiences both in the army and the 14:16.622 --> 14:18.844 Air Force and like when everything goes 14:18.844 --> 14:20.678 wrong it's usually it's just the 14:20.678 --> 14:22.622 natural course , right ? The first 14:22.622 --> 14:24.733 casualties is always the plan so like 14:24.733 --> 14:26.820 every patrol went wrong every um . 14:27.950 --> 14:30.630 Engagement was different or not as what 14:30.630 --> 14:33.919 wow or as planned , um . 14:39.320 --> 14:40.739 I think uh . 14:43.140 --> 14:47.030 It's So 14:47.030 --> 14:49.630 there I was alone and well , I was 14:49.630 --> 14:52.190 definitely not alone , but I had like 14:52.190 --> 14:55.349 45 sorties in the hurt with my unit 14:55.349 --> 14:57.549 before deploying to Afghanistan . I'd 14:57.549 --> 14:59.869 already been to combat , um , as an 14:59.869 --> 15:02.840 armor officer and strikers and . 15:04.080 --> 15:06.080 I , I felt very fortunate that they 15:06.080 --> 15:08.302 trusted me to , to bring a new co-pilot 15:08.302 --> 15:10.524 along like untested and unexperienced , 15:10.820 --> 15:12.820 um , and I had the most experienced 15:12.820 --> 15:14.987 crew like the senior navigator and the 15:14.987 --> 15:17.098 chief pilot was my aircraft commander 15:17.098 --> 15:20.400 and had the chief load instructor . And 15:20.400 --> 15:24.270 we um We're leaving Alaska and we're 15:24.270 --> 15:27.669 flying to Afghanistan . We're up over 15:27.669 --> 15:31.390 Canada and everybody's asleep and 15:31.390 --> 15:33.446 I'm the one guy awake and I realized 15:33.446 --> 15:35.612 like oh my gosh , I don't I'm going to 15:35.612 --> 15:37.779 combat . I don't have NVGs like I left 15:37.779 --> 15:40.429 my MVGs back in Alaska and I am 15:40.429 --> 15:42.651 freaking out , but I also don't want to 15:42.651 --> 15:44.818 wake everybody up because like they're 15:44.818 --> 15:47.096 getting their little nap time in right ? 15:47.096 --> 15:50.880 Um , And they kept that 15:50.880 --> 15:52.979 like I freaked out like I totally 15:52.979 --> 15:55.280 freaked out like how , how did I leave 15:55.280 --> 15:57.729 to go to combat without my night vision ? 15:57.989 --> 16:00.400 Um , I also didn't understand because I 16:00.400 --> 16:02.622 was so new to the Air Force at the time 16:02.622 --> 16:04.456 and it'd only been in a training 16:04.456 --> 16:06.400 environment that like . I didn't 16:06.400 --> 16:09.320 realize that the the aircrew flight 16:09.320 --> 16:11.809 equipment packed those and inventoried 16:11.809 --> 16:14.080 those and they're on a pallet and and 16:14.080 --> 16:16.280 that you know the whole team comes 16:16.280 --> 16:19.080 together to get you to to to fly the 16:19.080 --> 16:21.239 sortie successfully and that just 16:21.479 --> 16:25.359 wasn't in my . Realm of understanding 16:25.359 --> 16:28.039 or to know and it crushed me that . 16:28.840 --> 16:30.951 After being in the military for about 16:30.951 --> 16:33.173 10 years , I could go to war without my 16:33.173 --> 16:35.451 NBGs , and I thought I had failed , um , 16:36.239 --> 16:39.820 but that realization afterwards 16:40.299 --> 16:42.521 how everybody has a part and a piece to 16:42.521 --> 16:45.669 play to make a successful mission . Um , 16:47.169 --> 16:49.280 Really made me appreciate how the Air 16:49.280 --> 16:50.947 Force does business . That is 16:50.947 --> 16:54.770 ridiculous . OK , the 16:54.770 --> 16:56.992 tingles have like left my lips that are 16:56.992 --> 16:58.937 like crawling . I have sweat on my 16:58.937 --> 17:02.659 earball face . Good story . 17:02.900 --> 17:06.869 Thanks . I wish it was shorter . All 17:06.869 --> 17:10.568 right . My lips . This is the 17:10.568 --> 17:13.959 last one , yeah . The last 17:13.959 --> 17:15.780 dab , Thermageddon . 17:18.339 --> 17:20.450 We're supposed to put an extra dab of 17:20.450 --> 17:23.280 hot sauce on it . I'm in . You say that 17:23.280 --> 17:25.920 with enthusiasm . I'll let you do your 17:25.920 --> 17:26.920 own . Thank you . 17:32.900 --> 17:34.844 Oh , I get a dip . I'm gonna dip . 17:35.060 --> 17:37.282 right , I think I'm gonna do the same . 17:40.810 --> 17:42.977 Somebody did this on purpose . Someone 17:42.977 --> 17:45.088 did this on purpose . It's coming off 17:45.088 --> 17:47.088 my nose , and you know what ? We're 17:47.088 --> 17:49.088 gonna do this on purpose too . Oh , 17:49.088 --> 17:50.810 you're really doing it right . 17:56.540 --> 17:58.651 I don't like that one . Let's eat the 17:58.651 --> 18:01.260 whole thing . OK , that's cool . Right . 18:02.959 --> 18:04.292 We do the whole thing . 18:09.599 --> 18:10.780 It was so much fun . 18:13.739 --> 18:14.739 Mm . 18:18.780 --> 18:22.099 OK , all right , so speaking of fun , 18:22.189 --> 18:24.619 you're retiring soon , so real soon , 18:24.739 --> 18:26.795 real soon . That , that countdown is 18:26.795 --> 18:28.850 going . What's on the other side for 18:28.850 --> 18:31.260 you ? What are your plans ? Greener 18:31.260 --> 18:33.939 grass , I don't know . Um , I can't see 18:33.939 --> 18:36.969 the future . Uh , I can't see anything . 18:40.300 --> 18:43.670 Um I think it's 18:44.339 --> 18:47.599 I think what comes next centers on um 18:47.739 --> 18:50.640 our family and uh . 18:51.729 --> 18:53.896 And , and spending that time that we , 18:53.896 --> 18:57.449 we have back . From not being in active 18:57.449 --> 19:01.369 service , um . To just enjoy that next 19:01.369 --> 19:05.020 chapter . I think that's . That's gonna 19:05.020 --> 19:08.660 be the goal . Yeah OK , yeah , 19:10.010 --> 19:11.843 all right . Do you have any more 19:11.843 --> 19:14.550 questions ? No . Well , do you , do you 19:14.550 --> 19:16.661 want to eat any of the rest of them ? 19:16.661 --> 19:18.661 No , you're good . OK . All right , 19:18.661 --> 19:20.717 thanks guys . That was a wrap , uh , 19:20.717 --> 19:22.772 I'm here with Colonel Kavanaugh from 19:22.772 --> 19:24.939 the operations group . I really thanks 19:24.939 --> 19:27.106 for joining us . No , thank you . That 19:27.106 --> 19:30.739 was amazing . I was sick and 19:37.250 --> 19:38.890 I did . Got you .